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Re: Graphics Card

Post  sirlean on Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:27 pm

In that case if my motherboard doesnt support PCI-E 2.0 then i have no choice but to get a lesser card. That suits me fine!!


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Post  Le0N on Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:47 pm

the 9800s are pci-e v2 oldest of what i seen on the list, i |*think* you can put them in, but there would just be a performance decrease thats all
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Post  sirlean on Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:59 pm

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I think i found the specs of my pc online


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I think it is PCI 1.1



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Post  Le0N on Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:42 pm

Yeah, i think the card thats in your machine at the moment was the last of that generation of PCi-E Sad
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Post  sirlean on Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:03 am

So if i put a PCI-E 2.0 card in what would happen?


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Post  Le0N on Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:12 am

I *THINK*it would work but you wouldn't get the 100% performance from the card
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Post  sirlean on Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:49 am

whats the worse that would happen?

Fry my PC?
Complete meltdown?


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Post  sirlean on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:05 am

Some articles and blogs i found

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All seem to suggest its fine to do however if i get too high-end a card there will be a bottleneck. So what i will do is get a card which along the lines of a 9800 or a HD5670? as Morph suggested as it would still be an updgrade in performance over my present card but i wont see its full potential.


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Post  sirlean on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:12 am

Check me out....


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It even says that PCI-E 3.0 will be compatible with 1.x and 2.x



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Post  Le0N on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:20 am

should be cool then dude
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Post  sirlean on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:37 pm

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4850 and gts 250 have more raw power while 5670 supports directx11 which Bad Company 2 uses.

I'm gonna try get the 5670 1gb version. That should be enough for me. As its DX11 and it uses the least amount of power when put against my limited pSU supply. I'm happy with that. It should play all of my games well.

My present card plays all my games barring BC2 & operation flashpoint well.


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Post  Dragan on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:38 pm

Dont expect a smooth performance in BC2 if you re cpu limited. What kind of CPU do you have? I know its core 2 duo but which one?
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Post  Le0N on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:05 am

don't buy anything yet xfire me later
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Post  sirlean on Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:43 am

Dragan wrote:Dont expect a smooth performance in BC2 if you re cpu limited. What kind of CPU do you have? I know its core 2 duo but which one?

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That is my processor.

Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6700
(4M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB)



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Post  sirlean on Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:44 am

Another thing, is there a benefit to having a 1GB over a 512MB card?


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Post  theRizzler on Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:52 am

Lean, you've obviously never taken a math course in your life.

1024 is more than 512! lol.

To narrow the scope, and to put it simply, it will allow more allocation for textures and models without your video card having to commit those to RAM or vmem. Thus, faster loading of the aforementioned graphics.


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Post  sirlean on Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:02 am

I studied accounting, your point?

I meant was there additional benefit to having the memory over just being able to load more into it. I've heard in some cases some brands at 512mb work better than others at 1gb.


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Post  Cake Dude on Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:07 am

sirlean wrote:I studied accounting, your point?

Just studied? is that like saying you failed?

Kind of like someone telling you they spent a lot of nights getting hot with lots of women, until that man tells you he was known as jack the ripper.


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Post  theRizzler on Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:29 am

sirlean wrote:I meant was there additional benefit to having the memory over just being able to load more into it.

What else do you think memory does? The benefit of having more memory on your video card is that the GPU can access it more quickly than if it is allocated to your main RAM.


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Post  Dragan on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:08 am

The amount of graphic ram was sometimes used as a marketing trick in the past. If memory serves me right (i know it does) back in the days Lean himself had a graphic card Geforce 6200 which had 256 or even 512 MB of graphic ram. This graphic card was so damn slow that it could never possibly put all that RAM in use. I remember that coz i use to have Geforce 6600 128 MB and Lean claimed to have a faster graphic card back then. Seems like he learned alot since then.
Though it is almost impossible that the same graphic card would operate slower with more ram than its version with less ram. I said almost because there is an exception. Still those cases are extremely rare. It takes a dual GPU graphic card (2 gpus on the same layout) with twice the amount of ram of the original card. They can sometimes operate a few percentages slower then the original card in the circumstances where CPU is bottlenecking the whole PC. It takes some CPU power to divide the work between the two graphic cores which means if CPU is already bottlenecking the PC, it now has additional work to do. This could happen if you would be using a dual gpu card while still using resolutions lower than 1080p.

Long story short, lean's question isn't as stupid as it looks.
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Post  theRizzler on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:20 am

Well, the RAM isn't really the issue there. Your CPU performance, as well as the bus speed on your video card will affect the performance. More ram itself will NOT decrease performance. The only possible way this can happen is if the card has a lower bus speed than a model with less ram. Even in that scenario, the fault does not lie with increase in memory.


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Post  Dragan on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:24 am

Correct, the overall graphic card performance isn't lower by itself, than its version with less ram, but it can impact on the overall PC performance. But then again i was searching for the needle in a haystack.
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Post  sirlean on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:48 am

I bought a HD5570 1GB in the end. Bloody good card. Plays BC2 smoothly on high setting.


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Post  sirlean on Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:38 am

Jack, Denis, Morph

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From what i can see looks decent!


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Post  Le0N on Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:08 am

Just make a note to yourself you need an OS with that pc lean also its an mATX board

my five pence Smile

just priced up quickly on ocuk

Antec 300 Gaming Case
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Crucial Ballistix 8GB (4x2GB Kit)
Asus P8P67 LE Intel P67 Motherboard
ATi 6870 1GB version
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